Animation &Commentary &Hubley &Models &repeated posts 17 May 2012 07:17 am

Hub Eyes – repost

Here’s a post I wrote in 2009 that I still think is valuable, so I’m going to put it up again.

- It was 1973, and I was happily – I can’t tell you how happily – ensconced in the Hubley Studio working on Letterman, a new series for an upcoming CTW show, The Electric Company.

It was my first animation job. I inked it all (directly from animator roughs), I assisted & inbetweened it all, and I animated odd scenes including all the title sequences. I was a novice, and I was doing it all. Excited and happy is all I can remember.

I was alone one morning in the small room wherein I worked. I made a habit of getting into work before anyone and leaving after everyone. I wanted to make sure I was indispensible.
A month into the gig, and I think I’d only spoken with my hero, John, about a half dozen times. I was rushing through one of the Johnny Gent “Spellbinder” sequences. I inked all of his scenes, then inbetweened the drawings in ink. No time to work in pencil for this schedule. Johnny was completely off character, in a very old fashioned way, and I had to rework them all closer to the models – in ink. The schedule just gave me no time to be proud of what was happening. (A year or so later I apologized to Johnny for what I did to his artwork. I was so inexperienced and had such a dominant role in how the final art looked in that series.)

John Hubley ran in to give me something and made a quick comment about the character I’d been drawing. He said it was a “Paramount eye.” I looked at the drawing, then at him. Then John drew on a small piece of paper a “Disney eye,” then a “Terrytoon eye.” He laughed aloud and told me to try to “square off” the eyes a bit. Then he ran out.

I learned a lot in a very short time. I watched eyes that day and probably all that week. I ran Hubley films at lunchtime (I’d made it a habit to project their films in the kitchen during many of the lunch breaks. The entire group working there enjoyed these sessions) and watched the eyes. I talked with Tissa David about eyes in one of our evening tutorials – she was trying to teach me how to inbetween properly.

I was reminded of this moment when Chuck Rekow commented on the Moonbird Walk posted weeks ago. “The shape of the eyes on the boys is a real departure from almost anything in the cartoon world —even 50′s era. It’s closer to real life, and reminds me of the graphic style of Ben Shahn. It lends the film an aura of “seriousness”, even though it’s a cute film about two boys and an imaginary bird. Obviously, the pre-recorded sound is a major deal, but this gem is loaded with touches of inventive detail.”

How right he is, and I love being reminded of it.

The eyes are the direct route to the soul of a person and, consequently, an animated character as well.

After working for the Hubley studio, for a short bit, I worked for Phil Kimmelman and Associates. This was a hardy commercial studio doing tight designer-based animation. Rowland Wilson was doing a lot of their design work, and the animation clean-up was tight. Animators Jack Schnerk, Sal Faillace and Dante Barbetta did a lot of the work the few months I was there. Jack Schnerk was also animating for Hubley, so I knew his very complicated-to-clean-up style. I worked primarily as an inbetweener and learned some hard and tight lessons while there.

After the very loose work I’d been doing for the Hubley films, it was not only difficult for me, but good to keep me towing the proper line. I wanted to learn animation, and all of it was important.

Here, too, an empahsis was on the eyes. No Disney eyes, no Hubley eyes, either. But now I was just concerned with keeping those lines tight tight tight. No shimmer on the eyeballs. After all, I was told, people stared into the characters’ eyes, and any flaws in the animation would show up first in those eyes.

I worked for PK&A for about three or four months. I’d also worked for Tubby the Tuba at NY Institute of Technology under Johnny Gentilella, where we got somewhat close and I was able to discuss all sorts of animation problems with him. That was the only redeeming element, everything else about that studio was wretched. My displeasure ultimately led to my leaving as soon as I could.

Eventually, I was back at the Hubley studio helping to finish up the short Cockaboody.
The tightening of my inbetwees only brought positives to what I could now do for John Hubley’s studio’s animation.

To this day, I still watch eyes closely. For some reason, the tighter the linework, the closer I watch the assistant’s work. The looser the line, the more I watch the design. I prefer watching the design. Often it means eyes that can be easily labelled: Disney, Paramount, or Terrytoons. I suppose today, you’d say: Pixar, Dreamworks or Blue Sky. (And believe me, you can see those differences even in cg.)

The images above are from the following films:

  • Moonbird as drawn by animator Bobe Cannon
  • Letterman as drawn by animator Tissa David
  • Of Men and Demons as drawn by John Hubley
  • Eggs as drawn by John Hubley
  • Glad Gladys (Electric Company) as drawn by animator Tissa David
  • Woody & Buzz from Toy Story as drawn by ?
  • 3 Responses to “Hub Eyes – repost”

    1. on 17 May 2012 at 7:53 am 1.Elliot Cowan said …

      The drawing of the fellow with the fish is everything I love about character art in a single image.
      It’s enough to bring a tear.
      I’m envious and delighted at the same time.

    2. on 17 May 2012 at 10:49 am 2.J Lee said …

      Looking at Steve Stanchfield’s recent Noveltoons disc, I was struck by a couple of scenes of the miser in the 1947 short “The Wee Men”, which was directed by Bill Tytla and head animated by Al Eugster, and your comment on the different studios’ eyes is really the answer I was looking for.

      Here’s a bad YouTube copy of the cartoon, but it still makes the point. Go to the 6:42 mark for the close-up on the villain — it’s a Paramount cartoon, but those are Disney eyes Tytla put on the miser in the close-up, which makes them more evocative and the scene much more effective at conveying actual menace.

    3. on 19 May 2012 at 2:47 pm 3.liim lsan said …

      I can see the ‘famous/fleischer/paramount’ ones thanks to this post.

      (the Cal-Arts eye (based off of Frank Thomas’ way of drawing them), egg-shaped with negligible eyelid, and always thin on the top and wide on the bottom, and designed for the character to peer out the top and look cute, is in EVERYPLACE today. Seriously. I loathe it. My personal style, I go the opposite direction and do broad-topped eyes with thick brows…)

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